you've turn fiscal cliff into a verb meaning do you or do you not fiscal cliff your portfolio. i'm guessing you don't think it's in general a smart idea? >> i think it's difficult to time any event, let alone something like this, particularly when politics is involved. it's quite fashionable to be handicapping what if anything is going to be done, a grand bargain, a downpayment, whatever you want to define it as. at the end of the day the underlying fundamentals of the united states look relatively decent to us. we ultimately think the fiscal cliff will be rendered into a slope and as a consequence one needs to remain equitized because they remain undemanding. in the event you do get some solution, i think they're primed to continue to advance. >> let's pretend for a moment that we don't. we go through the new year. we go through the first week, still nothing, still nothing. there will be a line, mark, won't there where companies start to make cuts in advance of what they pretty much know will be a decline in consumer demand? >> i think you're right, carl. we saw evidence of th